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Hiveswap Act 1 OST - Commentary Hiveswap Act 1 OST - Commentary

Hiveswap Act 1 OST - Commentary Hiveswap Act 1 OST - Commentary

Album released 9/14/2017.
3.2k words across 83 entries.

Hiveswap Act 1 OST Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube, YouTube (playlist)

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Hey, it's Cohen. But more interestingly, it's James and Toby, giving some commentary on the first half of the HIVESWAP: Act 1 soundtrack, available now on Bandcamp or bundled with HIVESWAP: Act 1 on Steam and Humble. We've got the first half of the discussion today, with the next half going up next Wednesday. Wait...did I say all this once before already? No. Impossible.

Definitely Safe Forever Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

This is the track that has been rewritten the most. It's so much better now than it used to be. This latest version is meant to tie in with the title screen music. It's based around Joey and Jude's theme, and has a few nods in there to some others if you're listening.

Snake Escape Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

In its current form, I think this is one of the best examples on this soundtrack of what Toby and I's respective styles sound like mixed together. Toby doesn't like to use a lot of percussion, so I wrote this based on what was originally a piano piece. It is one of the VERY first things written for the game. WOW. The original version of this sounds a lot more like "SINGULAR PERIL" without any drums and not sampled, so just like, straight 8ths.

Joey Claire, Extraordinaire Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

When Toby sent me the original piano sketch for Joey's theme it was real good but I thought since Joey dances, what if I made it sound like a dance recital? I used to take dance classes when I was a kid, and I have very distinct memories of a kindly old woman playing bouncy piano chords in ¾ time. One of the design choices Toby and I settled on really early on was that each character would have a "room" that be the purest form of their theme. Joey feels most at home in her bedroom, which is a sanctuary from the rest of the awful house she lives in.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

I think my original version of this was like 40 seconds long or something... James did a really good job fleshing it out and making it something that's listenable for long enough to look at the Bubsy poster 40 times in a row.

Half-Harley Manor Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

This went through a bunch of revisions, too. It used a lot of harpsichord originally, which we then thought we'd use a little more sparingly. When we first came onto the project Andrew told us "it's like a haunted house" so we really made it like... spooky but months down the line Andrew was like "ok lads reel it in it's not actually haunted just lonely" so we switched it to piano and toned it down a bit. Toby ended up doing the final version of this one, though I think a piano version I did exists somewhere too.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

This is one of the first tracks I did for the game. I'm pretty proud of how it turned out from a musical standpoint, though I guess it's kind of serious given how goofy the house looks. Whoops...

Relatively Visible Darkness Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Overall it felt like the mansion wasn't dorky enough so I wrote this even MORE toned down version of it for when the lights go out. Stripping down Toby's song in this way makes it sound kinda like Luigi's Mansion, which rules so it all worked out. This was originally going to be the theme for just downstairs. In the time since then, though we decided to have music changes based more on "narrative" and less on just "location." You don't spend that much time upstairs so it would seem kinda silly to have the "MAIN THEME" of the mansion be heard for the two minutes you're in the hallway. You will see more of these dynamic music changes in ACT 2.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

It sounds kind of like Yoshi's Story to me. This turned out to be a really tuba-heavy soundtrack somehow. Maybe that's a good thing though.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

We just kept telling each other to add Tuba to things. Like some sort of Will They/Won't They Tuba standoff.

Bedroom for an Annoying Dog Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Cohen named this one this because it is the basement and Toby was living in Andrews basement at some point while he was working on Undertale. You may not have heard of it. There is no secret Undertale reference in this room. Checkmate, game theorists. Anyway Toby and I thought it would be really funny if we made the mansion theme sound like the Sephiroth song from Final Fantasy 7 and originally the directors hated it but I cried until I got my way.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

I literally didn't understand why it was called this until I read James's comment on it.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Toby what the hell.

That's How I Beat Snake Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Originally all the strife song titles had the word STRIFE in them. This one was called "Why'd it have to be STRIFE" a reference to the classic line in Indiana Jones where Indy, a known pacifist, questions the violent tone of the film. It is an extremely important moment in american cinema AND meta comedy. I'm honestly so surprised you hadn't heard of it. Anyway this is based off of "SNAKE GENESIS" which I wrote first. Movie Magic!

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

They probably should have also named the song that plays when you play the Snake minigame this. Just two songs with an identical name. That would be have been cool.

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

(Hey Cohen here. several people have asked if the title is a reference to the aaron carter song. obviously it is, yes, that. James' song titles were good but they were usually a very direct reference to what actually happened in the scene they were playing for. So I renamed them, because I didn't want people poring over the tracklist to decode the entire plot before actually playing the game. because you would have. I know you.)

Jude Harley, Bizarrely Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Hey did you know Jude's treehouse theme is just a slightly different "Joey Claire, Extraordinaire?" Anyway here is where I first accidentally discovered how fun it is to write a completely unlistenable synth sound that sounds like some hapless dweeb. I have truly realized my ultimate self.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Besides tubas, I think James's weird voicey grubble synths that sound like they're yelling are maybe the most defining instrument of this soundtrack.

Table for Tooth Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

I wrote this in 2014 and I THINK the original monster you fought here was the proto version big monster with two mouths, from the Living Room STRIFE. I wanted the synth to sound like the monster singing because I didn't know how the monsters sounded yet and I thought it'd be funny if they were like stupid idiots.

Final Spice Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Toby sent me this as a piano sketch (as he often did) and then I sent him a semi chiptune (ALTERNATE RECIPE) version with drums and stuff and then he sent me back the final version this was actually an incredibly simple process what an absolute joy. This is the most purely Toby track on the whole album and I love it.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

I thought it would be kind of funny if there was a JRPG battle theme mixed in with all the other ones. I think this is just what I make by default without any specific direction.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

It is my favorite song on Vol. 1.

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

(hi it's Cohen I intentionally made this strife more convoluted and complex as a result of how much I love this song, sorry)

Living Legend Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

I wanted to write something very Final Fantasy Boss Battle™ and around the time I wrote this an article came out where Nobuo Uematsu says he just wrote phrases a few measures at a time and put them together so that's what I did. (youtube.com/watch?v=mvyE9AJoUCM)

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Basically James is saying this is the One Winged Angel of the Hiveswap soundtrack.

Singular Peril Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

This was written based off the extremely old original snake chase sketch Toby did. I wanted to put that throwback in for myself. Like an easter egg only I know or care about. I also wanted to try like... sampling stuff since I'm not super good at it yet and wanted to grow as a composer.

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

(hey this is named Singular Peril because it plays during the only point in Act 1 when you can die. do you get the joke)

A More Defensible Position Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

This is a Toby Track 100% he just goes ham with echo. If you ever look at his work files it's like a thousand tracks and half of them are just echoes. This sounds so good toby is so good. I think this was originally a loop for... in between conversations or something?

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

I think it was just written for the attic in general.

Open The Door Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

This track has a really rich backstory, in the sense that it has had several complete versions each with their own revision process. You can check out one of those versions in the B-side "how it could have gone" available on bandcamp.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

My main contribution to this track is the piano riff 10 seconds in... Hell yeah...

Keep Your Head Down Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

I think I was asked to make this sound kind of 80's back when the game was going to be in 3D. I mean, either that, or I made it sound kind of 80's for no reason. Anyway, it's just an arrangement of Xefros's theme that I made for when tense stuff is happening.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

It kinda sounds like blade runner I have always upheld this even though I've never seen blade runner.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

Me neither.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 1

We are frauds.

Oh Whoa, What's This Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I made this track but I didn't name it. I had nothing to do with the name here. James named this.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I can't believe creator of hit webcomic homestuck and best friend of the pope, Toby Fox, would disown me in this way. Thrown under the bus! Left to die! A betrayal of the highest caliber. Owned in my own home. Absolutely destroyed.

Anyway yeah I named it. I feel like after "Oppa Toby Style" he would have learned to stop letting me name his tracks. How many times do I have to teach you this lesson.

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

(hi it's Cohen. When I renamed the album tracks this was one of only 2 or 3 that James really wanted to keep. He didn't tell me that it was a furry meme. I don't know about memes. I'm just a little bappy paws otter I don't know shit)

Some Kind of Alien Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Another track I made really early on as one of the themes for the entire game/Alternia in general. It ended up being one of Dammek's themes. It's a pretty clear nod to Crustacean from Homestuck. LMAO I almost typed "Crustacean from UNDERTALE,"

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Oh wow. Yet Another Betrayal At The Hands Of My Once Brother, Toby Fox.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Anyway because a few of my friends really liked that song and it seemed to feel really "Troll" to me, it seemed like a good idea to bring back that feeling for Hiveswap. And get some nostalgia in there as well. And to put more tubas on the soundtrack.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

My contribution to this track is that I made Toby go in and add in more tuba. There is a disgusting tuba-less version of this song that will never see the light of day.

Rustblood Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Basically what I was told about Xefros before composing this track is that he's kind of sad and pathetic and it makes you feel bad for him. Also him and Dammek are in a shitty rock band. So I tried to compose something that was kind of lumbering and morose-sounding, but also a bit like... a rock band? In the end maybe it's a bit too heavy-sounding for Xefros, but I like the melody a lot. Also here's more voluntary tubas from me. That's all of my tuba contributions I think.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Cohen, I typed "Dobey Fox :)" up there and Toby deleted it. :(

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

(fight your own battles James I can't be there to protect you from Toby every day of your life)

Filthy Nuclear Bunker Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

James: This is the most James Roach™ track on the album and it's extremely good. I wrote this melody when I was 12 and I sneak it into every major project I'm in. I have rewritten and remixed and remastered this song about a thousand times. The melody is named "Nuclear" so I made sure that was somewhere in the title.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I actually think this is James's best arrangement of the song that he wrote when he was 12 that he keeps putting into everything. I'm glad it could be used somewhere the player will be forced to listen to it for a really long time. It's great.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I made it his hive theme just to force people to listen to it again.

SPORTS! Personally, I Love Them. Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

This was another title I managed to slip in there. I love to name things in a stupid way. If somethings really bad it's funny. It's also funny if something's really good too. Maybe I just like to laugh. I am a man of much nuance. Anyway here is the ska song you begged me for. I wanted it to be a cheery version of Xefros's theme because it is the place in his house he probably feels most like himself. Surrounded by Anime and SPORTS! Quite possibly.. the biggest mood imaginable?

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I couldn't stop him from putting a ska song on the soundtrack sorry guys

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I would love to see you try little man.

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

(I don't know what anime he's talking about. I guess the paused Arena Stickball match on the TV is pretty anime-looking. But James also sees anime everywhere, wherever he goes. One time I saw him pick a rotten peach up off the ground, call it a "tsun-momo," and take a huge bite. He bit right through the pit)

Lofted Gunpile Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

This was actually my pass at "Some Kind Of Alien" when I was trying to show Toby what I meant by "make it quiet....... THEN REAL LOUD!!!" and it ended up working out cool cause we needed an extra track for Dammek's hive.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Your advice didn't work on me because I just like things to be really loud all the time.

SERPENT GENESIS Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I actually wrote this one first, despite it basically being a chiptune version of "That's How I Beat Snake" I tricked you guys into thinking THIS was a throwback to the snake strife. keep trying junior

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

This one really should have been called "HOW DO I BEAT SNAKE?" because I never found the clue to solving it and just did it by brute force. Also the drums kind of remind me of ska.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Fuck he got me

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

(I am glad Toby had to brute-force this puzzle. When I played Undertale I got stuck on that stupid piano puzzle because the beta version he let me play didn't cut you off after 8 notes or whatever. I was one note off, trying to play what I thought was this 32-note song. I also took a break for a week and was still stuck on it when I came back, so Toby thought I'd spent a week just beating my head against the wall on that one puzzle. Toby thinks everyone is a brilliant musician like him and his stupid piano puzzle was too hard the end)

We Shall Go Together Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

OK I know what you're thinking, "This gets its own track on the OST, but OLD SECRET isn't even here??" Hey look I love old secret too but (COHEN: redacted). I only put it in that cutscene for you, the fans. Also it fit really well. Anyway, this track is inspired a lot by Quiet Water by Toby Fox maybe you've heard of him. It is just a very slowed down version of Joey's theme.

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

(if you want to know what the title of this song is from google it with quotes)

Wish You Were Here Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

When Cohen asked me to write this song he was like "have you ever heard of transistor" and if making a smug face produced a sound we'd all be deaf. Then he asked me about rick and morty which is like.. a show I watch but never ever want to interact with anybody about ever. Anyway its that one scene you know the one.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

This song is cool

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

(James thought I wouldn't embed link this video! he underestimates me every single day of my life)

Intermission 1 Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

This has a bunch of different themes but is mostly the Heiress's theme, which is based off a really old really simple piano sketch toby sent me. It's got Nuclear in it too. also Joeys theme and Xefros's theme. I am explicitly not saying the word "leitmotif" out of a sort of... indignant disgust.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

There was a longer Heiress sketch too where it got really loud. Anyway I guess we'll talk about that later when (redacted)

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I absolutely refuse to wait another second.

Old Steps Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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Originally the game would have a jingle unique to each room when you did a tapdance/ballet but it ended up being too clunky so it got scrapped. Anyway here's a few of them!

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

When I was listening to this on bandcamp the next song started playing and I was like "Oh shit when does Joey do THIS dance???"

How it Could Have Gone Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I already talked about this one I guess??

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

This was basically James's arrangement of MY arrangement of the cutscene where, spoilers, Joey gets HIVE-SWAPPED!!!!!! The part where the choirs are soft was going to be the part when her and Dammek look at each other.

Alternate Recipe Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Toby sent me this as an mp3 of him playing a piano sketch, and then I sent him back this. we eventually settled on what became "Final Spice"

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

This is like listening to the early unreleased version of Chrono Trigger's battle theme.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I think I've just been like.. Owned by proximity.

Heavy Snaking Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

When we first envisioned the basement/snake strife it was gonna be really moody like the basement music. I wrote this as a joke but it worked out really well. But later we decided that scene could use a little BEEFING UP in terms of... intensity and energy? Anyway that's how a completely finished track ended up as a b-side. Could we re-use it later? Not really it's literally the mansion theme and table for tooth so it cant go anywhere else!

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

(I actually thought we could use this song somewhere else but James was really insistent it be a B-Side, so I guess when the time comes when we could have used it he will have to write a whole new song. haha owned again roach)

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I don't even remember if I've ever heard this one. It would have worked too I guess if the Snake was more chill.

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

like just an unbelievably chill snake.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Yeah like wearing sunglasses and its attack is to tell you to not do drugs.

SPOOKTUNE Listen on: Bandcamp, YouTube

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

When Toby was working on undertale he'd send me little snippets here and there of music he was working on and when he sent me spooktune I fell in love with it. Instead of telling him I liked it, months later I sent him this like "haha nice song idiot" we are good friends who respect eachother but that doesn't mean we cant own eachother on occasion or constantly.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

I have to respect James for being the only fan of Spooktune in the entire world.

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Toby FoxHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

OK im done

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James RoachHIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

Great job team

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Cohen Edenfieldgame director, HIVESWAP: Act 1 OST commentary, Part 2

OK everybody that's it. We'll be back next week with something else, which will also be good. Probably something about the art? Yeah. OK bye.

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