7/2/2024with respect to this album —
about 14 years, 1 month later ruby, Quasar Nebula, Makin, and Interrobang ✑ HSMusic Discord, excerpt

ruby:
Octoroon Rangoon references Penumbra Phantasm as 1m05s

Quasar Nebula:
How confident do you feel about this? I know you're more musically minded than most people who go "oh shit it's Gaster's Theme", but I'd like to hear a bit more critique/review on this reference from you and from other people

ruby:
it's playing the piano riff on the piano sound
let me get some comparisons

octoroon piano.wav

penumbra flute.wav

also being played on the same sgm piano that's used in versions of pp + other times toby references the song (like Descend)

Descend.wav

Makin:
the issue ruby is that I hear the first half of your octoroon piano but not the second, whatever notes are there are swallowed by everything else
it could be PP but if it's not actually resolved in the final version of the song I wouldn't count it

Interrobang:
Part of me wants to just defer to whatever toby put in the track description since hes the only one who really knows what is and isnt penumbra
But also they definitely werent always thorough on the hs bandcamp

ruby:
I feel like it's a case of Hopes and Dreams, where it's close enough to where he has had to have realized he put it in if he did do it accidentally

Interrobang: I dont really know what you mean
Makin: I'm still unconvinced about hopes and dreams lol
Interrobang: Whats the hopes and dreams thing

[...]

[re: Penumbra Phantasm in Hopes and Dreams]
Interrobang: Yeah i cant say im convinced
Interrobang: I think the octoroon rangoon one is more likely though
Makin: same

Interrobang:
My suspicion is that toby fox stopped thinking about penumbra so much after a point

Makin:
yeah he instead started focusing on thinking about the baby is 2 so he could reuse it in a pokemon theme

2/25/2025with respect to this album —
about 14 years, 8 months later HunZhen ✑ email feedback

At 1:47 in "Octoroon Rangoon" there were some arps, and this sounds for me like a reference of "Showtime" from vol.1 (yeah I'm not sure about that but consider about it)

5/25/2018with respect to this album —
about 7 years, 11 months later accessed 6/10/2025 Virdamo ✑ YouTube comment with 322 likes

List of leitmotifs used in here:

0:03 I'm a member of the Midnight Crew
0:19 Chorale
0:27 Black
0:48 Ballad of Jack Noir
0:59 I'm a member of the Midnight Crew
1:05 Penumbra Phantasm (along with I'm a member of the Midnight Crew)
1:18 Non Compos Mentis
1:23 Chorale (variation, mixed with Ballad of Jack Noir)
1:33 Black (again, along with Chorale)
1:47 Ballad of Jack Noir
2:00 "Make her a member of the Midnight Crew"

In conclusion, one big Noir mix.

4/1/2019with respect to this album —
about 8 years, 10 months later accessed 6/10/2025 Ton berry ✑ YouTube reply with 11 likes

1:05 actually sounds like Doctor to me

1/23/2021with respect to this album —
about 10 years, 7 months later accessed 6/10/2025 Emerald 1337 aka funny gamer guy ✑ YouTube reply with 5 likes

You missed: at 1:47, Showtime. To be specific, Harleintro.