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Penumbra Phantasm Penumbra Phantasm

Penumbra Phantasm Penumbra Phantasm

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Makin and Niklink ✑ HSMusic Discord, excerpt

Makin:

ok question. does doctor reference penumbral phantasm, or is it the other way around?
the wiki doesnt say and i couldnt find the info anywhwere else online (albeit i only looked briefly). is that like. unknown? - Dyst

neither
the original pp was a melody that was quoted in savior of the waking world, which combines doctor and penumbra phantasm successfully and inspired a lot of pp remixes with doctor in them
and every version of PP that has leaked is post sotww I think
I guess you can make a case that all existing versions of PP reference doctor
definitely not the other way around

[...]

Niklink:
there's this one part of PP that sounds almost identical to the first few notes of doctor and they often get blurred together

Jebb ✑ HSMusic Discord, excerpt

Jebb:
Well, very little is known about penumbra phantasm
It's referenced in like 1 toby track
Its melody is heavily based on Doctor's
There's a piano sketch and a tiny teaser i think
That's more or less it

ruby ✑ HSMusic Discord, excerpt

ruby:
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but the part of pp itself is undeniably based on doctor

ruby, wertercatt, Rainy, Makin, Lilithtreasure, Jebb, and Lan ✑ HSMusic Discord, excerpt

ruby:
the riff in HaD is identical to pp, but it in pp is based on Doctor

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wertercatt:
Should we stick a


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                                - track:doctor

onto Penumba by the way? Currently it's displayed as if it's a completely original track.

Rainy:
Yeah actually why wasn't that the case before

ruby:
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because we established it's referencing penumbra
something from penumbra that is derived from doctor
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onto penumbra? Yeah

wertercatt:
This track is presented as if it doesn't reference anything.

ruby:
surprising we don't
the main riff, while technically unique, is 100% based on doctor's

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Makin:
I think it's just time to retire the "it's penumbra when doctor is one note off" and just admit it's a doctor variation that PP used

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wertercatt:
Penumbra still needs Doctor added to its references tho.

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Lilithtreasure:
it's surprising that penumbra isn't listed as referencing doctor, but patient is

Rainy:
yeah that's odd

Jebb:
Wait why does it not have doctor listed

Lan:
It's an oversight!!

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Lan:
Guys, I swear, it's an oversight. This one - I do believe - is not intentional.

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